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Submitted by cassidyjames on Tue, 04/10/2012 - 04:08elementary is teaming up with Yorba to work on their upcoming mail app, Geary, in addition to working with them on Shotwell's UI. We've been in talks with Yorba about Geary and have made the decision to transition focus from Postler to Geary at a recent elementary Council meeting.
The goals of Postler and Geary are the same—to create a mail client for GTK+ desktops that is on par with any webmail experience, while utilizing the unique advantages of a fully native application. Because of this, we've decided that we are ceasing development on Postler to work with Yorba on Geary. Despite the efforts of porting to GTK+3 and creating a revamped interface, Postler just wasn’t catching up in backend work. In addition, Postler was struggling with a lack of manpower. Working with Yorba guarantees more manpower, increased collaboration, and less duplication of effort. All of which we love.
Christian Dywan, creator of Midori and Postler, has already begun work submitting bugs and patches for Geary. In addition, we've been starting to test how well Geary works in Pantheon. Christian also plans to port features from Postler to Geary. We’re really excited to collaborate with Yorba and can’t wait to bring this incredible new mail experience to our combined users.
We, along with other OSes like Ubuntu and Fedora, also ship Shotwell, another Yorba creation and the best GTK-based photo management app. We look forward to working with Yorba to help bring our design philosophy to Shotwell while retaining the unique features of each target desktop. Daniel Foré has already started with some discussion and mockups, and we plan to work even closer with them moving forward.
As Adam Dingle said, Yorba was founded to “bring free media applications to the next level.” elementry jives with that. It’s an exciting time for elementary and Yorba both as we work to bring the best apps with the best design to millions of users.
Cool stuff but still... one of the first things I will do with Luna is grab Thunderbird instead. I mean in this field I don't see a point in reinventing the wheel. TB is well supported, TRUSTABLE and stable in Linux. What I'm trying to say is... well it's all about where to put the effort and I don't see why Linux would need another email app. Just my opinion anyway.
I can definitely see your point, but one of the amazing things about elementary OS is that it attempts to make most of its applications uniform in look and feel. Thunderbird is a great email client, but from what I know, it doesn't really comply with the HIG of elementary OS. It would be like putting Firefox in elementary OS instead of Midori. It just wouldn't feel right, in my opinion.
Yes, I thought as much. What about re-skinning of those apps, aren't there any options?
Re-skinning only goes so far. It might address the 'look' of the application, but it doesn't necessarily address the 'feel'. For example, most standard elementary OS applications contain the unique cog button on the top-right of the windows instead of the toolbar, or something similar. There's also the issue of behind-the-scenes integration with elementary OS features like Granite. What you might be looking for are other Linux operating systems such as Ubuntu which contain more of a "best-of" package when it comes to applications.
Hope this partnership brings support for more protocols and would increase stability.
no me gusta el nombre geary, además me gustaba postler :/
google translator
I do not like the name geary, plus I liked Postler :/
Geary es el nombre del código y no representa el nombre final de la aplicación ;)
Geary is only the codename. The actual product's name may differ. I don't know if it's possible to suggest "Postler" :P
Adam Dingle siente que "Postler" pudo ser confuso :p Pero, hay un poll de Feisbuc aqui: https://www.facebook.com/questions/386339148064587/
Adam Dingle feels that "Postler" might be confusing. But there's a Facebook poll here: https://www.facebook.com/questions/386339148064587/
no siento que postler sea confuso, ademas me gusta el nombre postler
y en la encuesta se ve que a la mayoria le gusta el nombre postler
google translator:
I feel that Postler be confusing, plus I like the name Postler
and the survey is that most likes the name Postler
I think Hermes would be good name, because in Greek mythology he is the 'Messenger of the gods'. He shares this role with Iris so Iris could be the name of mail client too. I actually already proposed Hermes in that poll so people please VOTE! :)
I like Iris better, Hermes makes me think of Herpes. Caduceus also sounds pretty awesome:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus
Desktop e-mail clients ... that's soo last decade.
NOT TRUE!!
with the mass of mobile devices, there has been a feedback between desktops and mobile environments, which brings many features in mobile devices are also available in traditional workstations. For example, in android you have gmail, facebook, twitter, etc. Why not have them in a traditional desktop environment also?.
And Web Apps are so 3 years ago. A Native client just has so much more to offer in the way of desktop integration.
A dedicated mail app may well be my most used application. Bring it!
+1000
pop3 support?
You can catch up on Geary's plans on Yorba's wiki: http://redmine.yorba.org/projects/geary/wiki
I think this is a "no".
And how stupid was I to think that the current version of Postler will ship with the final version of Luna and I will have to use Thunderbird again...
Survival of the fittest ..:P..loved elementary OS. now with more awesome apps..:D
Interesting news. Selfish as I am, I can't help fearing that plans to include a polished Geary in Luna will push back Luna's release date. Whatever the case may be, I'm thankful to you guys (Yorba included) for the world's best OS.
I think worst case scenario Geary isn't ready by Luna beta and we just don't ship it.
Thank Google desktop email client is not a critical app nowadays :)
Hopefully that does not turn out to be the case
Cool. Good to know. Thanks for the response. :)
I had a chance to interview at Yorba some years ago and while I was more C++ oriented back then, I had a great impression of them. This is a good alliance, and I'm excited for the results!
"Working with Yorba guarantees more manpower, increased collaboration, and less duplication of effort. All of which we love."
And all of which I love, too! I'm glad you're smart enough to collaborate with other projects rather than desperately trying to create something that's 'your own'. :D
I know that my comment it's out of the subject, but what software it's used to make this really shiny and beautiful icons?
Probably Inkscape
That's correct.
The icons really do look great.. Super work. :)
This partnership really has the potential of driving elementary adoption. If there's enough differentiation in the experience for an app like Shotwell, people will switch. Keep up the good work!
Will you make use of Granite in Geary?
Maybe not at first. Yorba has to support a lot more users than we do. We'd need to make sure that Granite is stable and packaged up for all the different distributions that Geary is meant to run on first.
so, why not to use custom widgets instead? like old elementary apps did at first
Is there enough time for including Geary in Luna?
We're hoping this won't cause any delay in releasing Luna, but we really would to be able to ship it.
That's my question as well. I personally would be a bit irked by the presence of Postler in Luna knowing full well that it's a dead project. Hopefully, the elementary OS team has enough time to put Geary in Luna.
I think Luna won't come without mailing app, and probably that's will be Geary. As I understand from the text above, Postler is dead, but at least it's developing process has stopped, so I don't see any reason to release Luna with Postler, which is a dead project... but it's just my opinion. :)
Looks like a good decision to me especially because of the fact that Geary has more people behind it.
So will Geary be shipped in Luna? If yes, then under name Geary or Postler?
Yes, we're planning on shipping Geary in Luna. It won't be under the name "Postler" (that would just confuse people), but we're not positive that "Geary" is its final name, either. Time will tell.
They're gonna make awesome software! It's rare to see good software these days...
We'll expect great things!
:D
That sounds very great. How would the app be called then? Geary, Postler or something new? I would prefer Postler. So I hope that the name and the icon wouldn't be changed. I like them.
It won't likely be called "Postler" since that could be confusing. The icon, on the other hand, really has no reason to change. :)
So Postler will be using the Geary backend and still be called Postler?
As i understand it, there will be no Postler anymore. Only Geary
You are correct.
When will there be some official news about the elementary/Lubuntu work on a backend for a Software Center?