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Farewell, Jupiter
Submitted by cassidyjames on Fri, 10/12/2012 - 18:12A year and a half ago we released elementary OS Jupiter, our first foray into the world of operating systems. It was an incredible learning experience and caught the eye of a lot of people. We received many positive reviews and grew our userbase exponentially in the following months.
In the time since then, we've been working on a new version, called Luna. It's been a long journey with massive changes. We've been building a new desktop environment, working on the OS with all of its apps and underlying technologies, and hammering out bugs to get the beta released. We're incredibly close.
With that said, Jupiter has fallen behind. It was an awesome achievement for us when we released it, but we no longer feel confident offering it up for download on our site. Being built from Ubuntu 10.10, it no longer receives security updates and is running outdated software. Newer software requires newer libraries that aren't compatible with Jupiter, meaning we're stuck.
Today, we're announcing that we are officially bidding farewell to Jupiter to make room for Luna. Along with the download page*, our current Answers system will be taken offline temporarily; it is designed to be a community-driven support system for the current release and will be brought back online for the release of Luna.
Jupiter will always hold a special place in our hearts as our first major effort. If you're still running Jupiter, hang in there; Luna isn't too far away.
* The download will still be available for historical purposes, but we strongly discourage using it on production machines.
Out in the beta1!!!!!:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/elementaryos/files/unstable/
:)
Will there be a stable release in 2012 ? I want a decent distribution to replace Snow Leopard on my MBP, and all other user friendly distros look (and behave) like utter crap.
Love the project. Jupiter allowed us to place custom user folder shortcuts in the file window's left column. This doesn't seem to be working in Luna Daily Builds. Will it be restored? I believe this, and Plank customization with user folders and hierarchical menu navigation, are critical to many people's work flow. I've always preferred working this way instead of loading shortcuts on the desktop. I also miss Jupiter's HUD dock interface and space-bar file preview. Will any of these features be restored to Luna?
For the space-bar preview, you can follow those steps: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/04/gloobus-preview-update-brings-gtk3-and.html (follow the instructions for marlin, but replace "apps > marlin > preferences" with "org > pantheon > files > preferences", screenshot here: http://i.imgur.com/gf2SQ.png).
For the HUD theme, it's the default docky theme? If so, this should work: http://cassidyjames.deviantart.com/art/Pantheon-theme-for-Plank-213303421 (i haven't tested it, may do it tomorrow)
I know it's an hassle to change there stuff by yourself, but i guess that it's always better than nothing.
Thanks. I tried the docky theme, replacing the "dock" and "hover" theme files in ~/.config/plank/theme. No change. Tried restarting and no difference. Surprising really. Any other suggestions or have I botched it somehow?
I love the project too if only there was a product behind the project. When is it comming out?? In the future the elementary team really needs to have scheduled release dates. Without it there's always going to be a need for that lilte bit of extra work and extra tweaking and so on and on and on and on and it never ends.
Also had the same problem using Ubuntu 12.10, and the staff has talked to Luna was not made for use in Ubuntu 12.10 and then to 12.04 and only wish that resolves this problem in 12:10 ...
I've been using daily buils since a month ago but today after updating the system like always my screen is stopped while elementary OS is running its demons, and I can't access to the desktop, I can only go to terminal mode. The problem is not about the graphic drivers. Anyone can give me any solution to avoid formating my partition?
I also thinks so. it is great post. http://www.convert-avitomp4.com.
I've described the solution at https://lists.launchpad.net/elementary-dev-community/msg01694.html + follow-up messages in case this one doesn't help.
Thank you! but I did that and I cannot start elementary OS, I will reinstall the system when a new build appear in the installers with the bug resolved.
YES! All blueprints and bugs are gone!
Hello!
Where did you read it?
He got it from https://launchpad.net/elementary/+milestone/luna-beta1
Everything is in the open, you just have to know where to look...
Unfortunately, there are more things to complete before we can release the beta - some architectural changes, website updates, last-minute testing and verification, etc etc
"YES! All blueprints and bugs are gone!"
2012.11.10.:15 blueprints and 237 bugs targeted
??
But they're all fixed or implemented. Well, 2 still in progress.
Yes.Sorry!!It was careless of me.
Hi guys!
Does anyone else have problems with the installation of applications in Luna? They are installed (and they work), but they do not show up in Launchpad (flash control center, amdccle, ubuntu-tweak).
Should be fixed now, at least ubuntu one control panel shows up for me.
I have a HP g42-372br which have two "graphic cards", a onboard 4200HD Series from AMD and a dedicated 6370HD. when i boot, my dedicated graphic cards start to work, but it's goes HOT, about 90º C, which causes slow downs and a lot of stuttering. How i can change to the onboard graphic card without the proprietary driver from AMD?
Ubuntu (and by extension elementary OS) supports switchable graphics by means of the vga_switcheroo flag. To test if vga_switcheroo is enabled on your system, look for the switch file:
ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
You can check which cards are currently running with:
cat /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
To turn off the graphics card that isn't driving outputs (which should be the discrete card by default) run:
echo OFF | sudo tee /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
Let me know if this works for you.
Thank you, Ben :)
Running the latest unstable i386 build (live from a class 10 SDHC) on an HP DV6 laptop with switchable ATI HD 4200/5000M graphics, running the command
echo OFF | sudo tee /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
and installing the Jupiter applet (set to Power On Demand), reduced my machine's temperature from around 85c to around 62c. This is just a couple of degrees above my regular temperature on my Linux Mint MATE install.
Looking forward to the final release.
Go into your BIOS and see if it lets you disable the dedicated GPU. You do want to switch back and forth from them right? I read way back an article on some sort of program called bumbleebee or something along those lines, I will try to find that article for you. Basically it allows you to switch between GPU's when you want to from the Desktop itself, so no constant BIOS switching. It is however for NVIDIA, but their might be some type of forks out there.
Gala is also not that demanding and works fantastic on my HD 4200 GPU.
What will Luna look like? I cant wait tell the release it, I'm running Jupiter and its still faster than the new Ubuntu lol.
Also will I be able to upgrade from Jupiter?? Without having to re install.
You definitely won't be able to upgrade. Jupiter is based on 10.10, Luna will be 12.04, so they are two releases apart, that's pretty much all the work done in year 2011. This means most of the core is different, most notably the switch from gtk2 to gtk3.
will be released when the luna ?
I'm running what is supposedly Beta 1 for luna (just what a blog said) and it looks beautiful and it's really very fast. Also if I remember correctly you can not upgrade to luna from jupiter without having to "re install" but you'll be able to from luna to luna +1
Where do I get the Beta?
I think i found the blog.
"Never rush a thing."
I hope the elementary team won't rush things, take their time to produce a quality OS.
The only thing that comes into question for the future is, will they be able to keep up? So that users of a previous version don't have to stick to outdated software with no updates and can immediately switch to a newer version / receive a harmless upgrade?
Is it possible to use Luna with Compiz instead of Gala?
Yes, it is.
Initially we were going to use Compiz like we did in Jupiter but it has proven to be so slow and buggy that we just couldn't ship the OS with it.
I've tried to forward-port Compiz 0.8 to Precise (it normally has the terrible 0.9), but for some totally mysterious reason it built only on my local machine and not in pbuilder/PPAs, and its window decorator was outdated among other issues and legacy bugs.
And since Compiz no longer worked well, we created Gala.
Ok. good because Gala is a very nice window manager, but i'm just not a big fan of the animation it uses like when you click "About" on non-elementary apps, the window animation is ugly. Also, there isn't a tool like ccsm for gala yet, unless someone writes one... It is possible to use Luna with no animations? I'm more of a minimalist person. To give you a better portrayal of the person i am, My windows set up very minialistic. I use the classic mode with all the effects turned off. :). I want to use Luna specifically as a platform to write pyQt apps.
In this case you might be better off with Metacity.
You can disable Gala animations by running the following in terminal:
gsettings set org.pantheon.desktop.gala.animations enable-animations false
However, it seems to disable not all of the animations at the moment and might result in issues because this mode has not been thoroughly tested yet. If you encounter any issues, please file a bug by running "apport-bug gala".
Gotcha, i'll report any bugs i encounter! Thanks :)
I wonder how much work it would take to get Luna up and running on the new chromebook once this project is completed:
http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/arm-chrubuntu-1204-alpha-1-n...
This would be my next.
Shouldn't be hard in theory, because most of the porting work is done in the kernel (drivers, etc). After that it boils down to simply using our seeds instead of Ubuntu's in build system.
The only problem is that there are no official ARM builds of elementary apps yet, so somebody will have to either build all the apps and libs themselves or maintain a repository.
Jupiter will always be remembered by me as the OS I wrote my thesis on. ;)
Will elementary OS support gesture with Apple magic trackpad?
It will not support them out-of-the-box for Luna, but I think some degree of support can be added manually. We'll look into it for Luna+1
I have to say, I LOVE what you guys have done here.
Just one suggestion.
Practically, 90% of the population can't live without stuff like VLC & some Office apps.
Is it really that hard to include them ?
I wish it was more... complete.
Nobody wants to work for their computer. We want these systems to work for us.
Atleast include the basic stuff guys... Come On !!
Downloading & installing in linux, is a pain in the a##.
You might think that software center or apt works great.
But then again, if something is needed by so many people, why make them download it ? Cuz they'll do it anyway.
Once again, Great job guys, Can't wait for the final release.
Just please think it over one more time :)
Best of luck !
Providing VLC and OpenOffice breaks the user experience, which is an area the elementary team is not willing to compromise on, and it is probably why you LOVE what they are doing.
There are some community projects in the works for a video player and an office suite that follow the elementary HIG. These will not be included in Luna. There is a possibility that they could be included in Luna+1, but there is nothing set in stone.
For now, the software center will have to do for the "practically 90%" users.
Thank you for the complements and thank you for testing the OS!
We have an ongoing collaboration with Light Software Center developer, I hope we'll be able to ditch USC soon
Are you guys going to to have a new website design when Luna comes out?
Yeah hopefully, but that's up to the Web Team. They've been toying with a custom-built website since the very launch of this one and the current iteration mostly works AFAIK.
My appearance plug was removed after updating my system. Please, PLEASE change the dconf editor icon. It's ugly, over sized and WILL confuse the average Luna user. On the bright side, it's great that you guys pushed out kernel 3.5.x to Luna :) .
Linux 3.5.x? Wait, WHAT?!
yes, 3.5.x... It also broke Marlin but that seems to be fixed. The Appearance plug is still missing though
The new kernel version that comes with Ubuntu 12.10 by default.